MSefi.com read only forum (Jan.15,2018)

will a vw 8v fuel rail fit on the 16v and if so what else do i need from the 8v to run ms ?

Unfortunately, it won't fit, the spacing between ports is different. FWIW, I've been told that the spacing on the fuel rail from a VW 1.8t is the same as the 16v.

Plus the 16v manifold gets in the way, so you need long pipes down to the injectors as opposed to the rail sitting right on top of them on the 8v motors.

Tom Ross has some pictures on his site:

http://www.rossmachineracing.com/16vfuelrail.html

HTH,
Eric

i have the ross rail on my 16v, bahn brenner has started making rails as well for a bit less than the ross one, which seem to be good quality.

Here are a couple more options, the first one is similar to the Ross an Bahn Brenners ones, the second one is unique, the only one of its type I've seen, in that it mount under the manifold.

http://eurospeed.ca/performance/more_bh ... esp023.htm
http://eurospeed.ca/performance/more_bh ... esp006.htm

I use the BBM one and the rail is very well machined and finished. The rail that fits inside the curve of the inlet looks quite a neat solution though!

the 16v ABF engine (golf3 GTI) has electric operated injectors unlike the 9A (B3 passat)'s K-Jetronic style injectors.
is it possible to use (or logical) the ABF intake manifold on the 9A engine to use megasquirt on it ?

Thanks

The ABF`s use shorter injectors, if you need to upgrade the injectors you`ll also have to fit another rail, I`ve never seen one on a 9a but the heads are just about identical..

Probably have to fit the ABF manifold/rail/injectors as a complete set?

The ABF injectors/fuel rail are of the composite type which means you can't really change the injectors, its the same with the 8v 2E injectors/rail.

That said, if anyone knows of bigger injectors for an ABF rail I'd be interested

I wounder if I could fit the whole ABF intake, injectors and rail, completely to 9A, as I have a 9A that I want to use megasquirt on it.
But the local junkyard wants alot of money for ABF manifold inj. etc. , Is there another way to solve?
Fact is I need to fit electric operated injectors to 9A (K-Jetronic) manifold.

An ABF inlet WILL fit a 9A or a KR.

Someone was selling an ABF inlet complete on the www.edition38.com forum a few weeks ago. This may be worth pursueing as a lot of people replace the stock inlet for carbs/ITB's. Maybe post a wanted ad on there..

The ABF's are also available in Seats, the Ibiza and Toledo I believe...

I have used a fuel rail from a 1.8t - it is the correct spacing but definite not long enough to reach down into the standard 9a inlet manifold.

I simply brazed 3" lengths of copper tube to the existing rail - (household plumbing type). You then need to flare the ends very slightly to the injectors slide up to a tight fit.

A simple solution, the 1.8t rail cost me £20.