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I am interesed in installing a MS on my stock 1995 GOLF GTI VR6. I am looking for any information available for this installation, or to hear from someone who has done this installation on a VR6. What is needed for the installation? what can i expect from the ms controller? ect. Any help offered would be appreciated. Thank you!

Depends on a couple details, but there are a lot of squirted VR6s out there. Does this one have a distributor or coil pack, and is there anything you are looking to control besides fuel and ignition?

I have lots of details on that exact install on my site: http://kptuned.com/2009/02/24/1995-gti- ... egasquirt/

My VR6 runs a coil pack. What kinds of modifications can I expect? Any suggestions that you can offer me? I am new to the ms controller but am very interested in it.

At the very least you need to use the LED's for spark outputs to the stock coilpack. On a V3 it's three resistors and three jumper wires, on a 3.57 you can use the PAD locations and just jumper wires. The other board mods are pretty std, like tsel to vrin and vroutinv to tachselect.

for: PAUL_VR6

I see on your website that you offer kits for the VR6. Can you give me an explaination on what you offer with your kits? (wiring harness's, tuning, sensors ect) I currently live in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada, and am currently enrolled in college for heavy duty equipment technician. My teacher introduced me to the MS systems and offered it as a optional project for me to do in our lvl 2 electronics systems course. Does this ecu require hacking up my factory wiring harness, or is it a straight forward installation? I apologize for my lack of knowledge with this system, but i appreciate any information that you can offer. thanks again.

chubber wrote:for: PAUL_VR6

I see on your website that you offer kits for the VR6. Can you give me an explaination on what you offer with your kits? (wiring harness's, tuning, sensors ect) I currently live in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada, and am currently enrolled in college for heavy duty equipment technician. My teacher introduced me to the MS systems and offered it as a optional project for me to do in our lvl 2 electronics systems course. Does this ecu require hacking up my factory wiring harness, or is it a straight forward installation? I apologize for my lack of knowledge with this system, but i appreciate any information that you can offer. thanks again.

IMHO, the best approach is to get a secondhand engine harness from a scrap yard and modify that. The MS uses a D39 connector which is almost certainly different from the one used on your car - and although it might be possible to make up an adaptor for this as with all wiring the fewer connectors the better.
Get the schematic for your stock engine wiring and produce a modified one for the MS, choosing new wire colours as appropriate if needed.
It's far easier to modify a loom on the bench than in the car - and soldering the D39 requires care.

It's a DB37 ;)

The systems I provide have all the necessary internal modifications to allow all stock sensors, coilpack, etc to be used. It comes with the software preconfigured, but I would not call it pre-tuned.

At this time I do not offer plug and play harnesses, as I just don't have the time to do them. In the past I have taken the connector out of a stock ecu and made a pigtail to the MS DB37 connector.

Below is a harness I made for my car for MS3 testing:



That is long enough to run from the stock ecu connector, through the firewall and sit on the passenger seat, believe it or not!

As stated earlier, another good option is cutting a stock harness at the connector and wiring the DB37 right there. I've never done a VR6 that way but many 4cyl VW's as the harnesses are more plentiful.