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Help with high idle
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:28 pm
by br1070
Hello,
I am running the latest B&G code on a MS2 and I was just able t get the 306 Windsor started for the first time. I am controlling the coil with the squirt and am using a 2 wire distributor with a VR sensor. The fuel system is a FAST 4 85lb\hr injector TBI. I have played with the ve table and spark advance table slightly, but I have an extremely high idle 3500+. I have been able to get the fueling to respond by fuel additions or reductions so I think I am heading on the right path. Any input or suggestions that could help me decrease the idle RPM would be welcomed.
Thank you,
Brad
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:05 pm
by kjones6039
According to your MSQ, you are not using MS to control your idle. Try reducing the idle with the idle stop if so equipped.
Ken
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:10 pm
by br1070
Thanks for the reply Ken. I have the throttle blade stop screw adjusted so the blades are full closed, but I think I may have an issue with the gasket between the intake and tbi. I'll check it out and see if that helps.
Thank you,
Brad
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:34 am
by kjones6039
Yep.......... Sounds like a vacuum leak then!
Ken
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:35 am
by br1070
Ken,
I see you are using a similar TBI setup to mine, any tips or tricks to setting fueling? Did you find simultaneous squirts or alternating squirts to work better for you etc..
Thanks,
Brad
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:02 pm
by kjones6039
Hi Brad,
The big difference between our setups is the firmware! I am running Extra code, so some of my setup won't be applicable to your MS.
I am running 2 squirts simultaneous, mostly because I run staged injectors and simultaneous is required.
I will attach my current msq, but REMEMBER it is using Extra code!
Ken
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:20 am
by br1070
Hi Ken I uploaded your MSQ and I have to say MS Extra looks like the real deal. I kind of like the simplicity of the B&G firmware, but I like the control and the diagnostic tools that the extra code offers.
By the way I had multiple vacuum leaks lol.
Thanks again,
Brad
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:53 pm
by kjones6039
br1070 wrote:Hi Ken I uploaded your MSQ and I have to say MS Extra looks like the real deal. I kind of like the simplicity of the B&G firmware, but I like the control and the diagnostic tools that the extra code offers.
Early on I ran B&G code on a TPI setup on my grandsons Chev 350 truck. When I started the current Corvette project I switched to Extra and have never regretted it.
br1070 wrote:By the way I had multiple vacuum leaks lol.
Had a hunch you were going to find the high idle issue there.
Ken
EDIT: Just curious...... Does the FAST TB use a 4 wire IAC like the Holley Pro-Jection?
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:00 am
by br1070
If your IAC is this one i found online then i dont think so. The IAC for the fast is from a LS era IAC valve which is still 4 wire, but slightly different i believe.
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_sy ... arts/543-2
Brad
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:33 pm
by kjones6039
Actually, this is the one my Holley Commander uses........
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_sy ... ts/543-105
Ken
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:50 pm
by br1070
That's probably the same iac the fast unit uses.....I'm having to research which iac it is because I bought my tbi second hand without sensors.
Brad
Re: Help with high idle
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:04 am
by br1070
Well.....since I attempted to plug the vacuum leaks things have gone a little crazy.....
The idle RPM,AFR, MAP, EVERYTHING except throttle position look like they are riding a roller coaster lol. I have attached a log and MSQ used for the log......not sure where to go from here.
Thanks