Palm and Blue tooth.

ronchinoy · Post by **ronchinoy** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:09 am

The new palms suport blue tooth.
has anybody been able to get this to work.

I have blue tooth on the MS and am able to get a wireless link to work between the MS and my laptop.

Id like to now use wireless between the Palm and the MS.

So in short Im looking for the latest Palm device with color & blue tooth and external battreys. And if it suports a memory card of some type that would be a plus.

Trooper55 · Post by **Trooper55** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:42 am

i have a palm 700wv witch is the windows based platfrom and it has blue tooth and a sd card slot works great. havent tryed anything with MS yet still just learning about it. love to see something with bluetooth and the ms love to hear more about your work with it please.

renns · Post by **renns** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:40 pm

Newer versions of HB++, the Palm development environment used to write these programs, does offer Bluetooth support. If anyone is interested in giving it a try, it looks like the code mods required are pretty simple.

Roger.

Kaas · Post by **Kaas** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:51 pm

I am interested, but I dont know anything about HB++ programming.

I have just got my self a tungsten T3 with bluetooth, and I will it install palmlog on it. I know that the T3 has some problems with the serial software, but there is some serial fix on the internet somewhere!

newtyres1 · Post by **newtyres1** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:47 pm

Ronchinoy,

What does it cost to put Bluetooth on the MS, what did you use? It sounds interesting.

Ian.

renns · Post by **renns** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:28 am

Ian,

From a quick search of ebay, it looks like $60 US minimum for an RS232-Bluetooth adapter. I'd expect some mods of the MS box may be needed to power that adapter through the DB9 as well. Here's a bit more info:
http://www.megamanual.com/com/bluetooth.html

Roger.

newtyres1 · Post by **newtyres1** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:29 am

Roger,

If you are happy to experiment with the code mods I am happy to buy one of these and see what happens. No worries if it doesn't work. What do you think? The Tungsten T I have is apparently Bluetooth enabled, I think it is an early version of Bluetooth, not sure of what compatibility issues there might be, if any. Will do some research tomorrow. The 200mA current draw, if that is correct, will be a burden on my particular install (no heatsink on the 5V reg and can't fit one), I will need an external 5V supply but that is no prob. It's a radio transmitter so 0.2A at 5V is 1W input power, sounds reasonable.

Ian.

renns · Post by **renns** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:44 am

Ian,

Hold off for now until I spend more time looking into the HB++ upgrade. There's a couple issues here:
1.) When I tried the latest upgrade, my code that compiled fine on the old version had numerous errors.
2.) I'm running the old demo version, which only has a nag screen at program launch, The new version supposedly has 'nag' screens that pop up periodically while the program is running, which could be a PITA.

Roger.

renns · Post by **renns** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:04 pm

renns wrote:1.) When I tried the latest upgrade, my code that compiled fine on the old version had numerous errors.

Fixed now... The lastest version contained a few syntax changes that required minor tweaks throughout the program.

2.) I'm running the old demo version, which only has a nag screen at program launch, The new version supposedly has 'nag' screens that pop up periodically while the program is running, which could be a PITA.

I contacted the developer, and nag screen is at program launch only, so no changes there.

If anyone has hardware to test, let me know, and I'll try the BT code.

Roger.

Kaas · Post by **Kaas** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:17 pm

Roger.

I have a tungsten T3 with bluetooth and a bluetooth iogear serial adapter. If you what me to test anything I will be happy to help.

I also have an extra 2.2 box and a jimstim, so I can test inside the house.

renns · Post by **renns** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:25 am

Kaas,

Do you have MS1 or MS2 setup available for test?

Roger.

Kaas · Post by **Kaas** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:33 am

I only have MS1

renns · Post by **renns** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:47 pm

Kaas,

OK, give me a couple days to come up with a test program, and I'll send it your way.

Thanks,

Kaas · Post by **Kaas** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:12 pm

That sounds good. My email is l_l@ljbk.dk

I dont know how you will make it but, I think it will be something like when a bluetooth gps is connected to tomtom. In the tomtom program you have to pick a gps antenna, and here you find your bluetooth gps and connect it in the tomtom program, and next time you open the tomtom program, it remembers what bluetooth antenna to use and connects automatic.

newtyres1 · Post by **newtyres1** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:33 pm

Has any progress been made Kaas, Roger? I might have something to test with soon.

Ian.

renns · Post by **renns** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:23 am

Ian,

Kaas is being very patient in testing my various attempts at BT comm. Unfortunately, no joy yet. If at least the emulator supported BT, I could check the basic functionality, but even that is not possible. I'm on the lookout for BT hardware myself, as it will make the development process much easier.

Roger.

Kaas · Post by **Kaas** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:38 pm

Yes, Roger has been working hard, and I am still very happy to help

One thing I quickly found out was that the settings with the secure communication using authentication and encryption, has to be turned off, or else palmlog cant find the adaptor. That is with the iogear any way!

newtyres1 · Post by **newtyres1** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:02 am

Thanks for the update! I've been looking around, here's a few links I came up with for cheaper Bluetooth accessories/modules. I don't know if they work well or not, but thought I'd post up a few hours of research. Of course, or hopefully, someone else will come up with some better alternatives, but this is a start.

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/produc ... ts_id=8474

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/produc ... ts_id=8497

http://www.gridconnect.com/btmodule.html

http://www.a7eng.com/products/embeddedb ... 01-SER.htm

For a USB to Bluetooth adaptor for a PC, do a search on ebay for "F003 USB Bluetooth" from etech city, selling for around US$7 including shipping.

It looks like a Class 1 Bluetooth product will transmit up to 100m, a Class 2 up to 10m. I would think Class 2 should be enough power. I haven't looked to see what class the Palms are, but the actual range will be limited by the lower class unit.

Ian.

renns · Post by **renns** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:48 pm

Thanks for the links Ian. Here's another to add to the list:

http://www.aircable.net/mini-os.html

I've got a Treo 650 coming my way now, and may be able to find a local BT-serial loaner I can use for testing.

phongshader · Post by **phongshader** » Sat May 03, 2008 8:04 am

I was just given a Treo 700P and found this thread at the same time. I bought the CSA (cordless serial adapter) listed on http://www.megamanual.com/com/bluetooth.html because it was already being used and known to work with MS. It works great for a wireless connection to a PC, easy to set and get running but for some reason I couldn't get the treo to find it or my other cell to find it. Of course i thought I had set the csa up wrong so I messed around with the setting and still no connection. I went to the Socket website and did some poking around and found this:
"General Access Profile, Service Discovery Profile and Serial Port Profile are supported by the Cordless Serial Adapter. Most mobile phones do not support the protocols required to communicate with the CSA."

So I guess you can take this device off the list of compatible wireless devices to use for palm tune/log.

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