to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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Ok so I have a ms2 v3.0, with b&g code and the relay board from diy autotune.
My issue is I have fuel and spark but its not turning on I think due to too much fuel I took out the spark plug and it had a drop of fuel dripping off the spark plug. The cumbestion chamber smells like fuel and still won't turn on.
I have tunerstudio
Engine 1.9l ohv engine .
Injectors are rc1200cc's.
Spark edis 4 coil .
Spark plugs ngk's .
I have no cold start stuff.


I have iat sensor ,map sensor ,tps ,clt ,o2
What am I not doing right is it my pulse width or spark timing bc I dosnt even sputter at all
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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You might want to read the last line (in red) above.......

A log of a starting attempt and your msq will help.

Ken
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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kjones6039 wrote:You might want to read the last line (in red) above.......

A log of a starting attempt and your msq will help.

Ken
just what I needed. I will do some reading and see what I need to do to get this thing running by tonight. I will keep yall posted.
and yes im from Texas

thanks again
Carlos Lopez :RTFM:
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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Howdy, Tex! (I spent a week in Fort Worth one night!! :lol:

When you post a reply, you will find the Upload Attachment tab a bit below the reply window. Posting is pretty straight forward from there.

Hope that helps.

Ken

EDIT: BTW I meant the second line in my first post.... Regarding posting logs, msq, etc.
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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Ok so I read the ms start up, and it seems as if all is right. I'm just not understanding how to set up my objectors they are 1200cc and my engine is a 1.9l port fuel injection what I'm I not doing right.
Still no start up
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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We have no idea what you're not doing right, because you haven't posted your .msq tune file for us to have a look at ...
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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DonTZ125 wrote:We have no idea what you're not doing right, because you haven't posted your .msq tune file for us to have a look at ...
Ok I'm a new guy at this what do you mean msq file. What is that what would you like to see I will post it.
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The tune file that you modify with TunerStudio and then burn to your MS has a .msq extension; if you upload it as an attachment to your message, we can look at it and see if there's anything obviously odd that might be causing these issues.
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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DonTZ125 wrote:The tune file that you modify with TunerStudio and then burn to your MS has a .msq extension; if you upload it as an attachment to your message, we can look at it and see if there's anything obviously odd that might be causing these issues.
is this the file page you speak of DonTZ125 or is it another my bad on the timing i have been in a complete mix-up of things here at home but thank you for your patience.
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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my ecu definition in my project properties is: MSII Rev2.90500
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I can't read the pic, but if that's a .msq extension on that file, post it up and let us see!
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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this is my msq. file it seems to not work anytime i change my injector size it changes my engine size and also when i change engine size it changes the injector size.
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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It is definitely weird. I have been trying to assist with my limited knowledge, but as far as I can tell, between the MS/Tuner studio changing the engine size and/or injector size, I think this is causing his injectors to flood which is preventing the start.
My car goes put-put
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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A very brief look at your msq reveals some interesting settings.....

Displacement = 16 cu. in.
Injector flow Rate = 48 g/s
Injector Open Time = .1 ms
Required Fuel = 1.9 ms

All of which seem a bit odd, but of course that could just be my misunderstanding...........

Did I understand correctly that this is EDIS4 ignition?

Ken
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MS2 v3 w/ms2extra 3.4.0 Release
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Spartan Lambda Sensor from 14point7
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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kjones6039 wrote:A very brief look at your msq reveals some interesting settings.....

Displacement = 16 cu. in.
Injector flow Rate = 48 g/s
Injector Open Time = .1 ms
Required Fuel = 1.9 ms

All of which seem a bit odd, but of course that could just be my misunderstanding...........

Did I understand correctly that this is EDIS4 ignition?

Ken
Yes sir
My set up is a 3tc engine 1.9l
Running ms2 v3.0 edis 4
Injectors are four 1200cc RC injectors
I'm running 7:1 compression
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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Try the following basic settings.........

Under Injection Control:
Required Fuel = 2.7

Under General Settings:
Engine displacement = 115.9
Injector Flow Rate = .005 (This is the one item I am not dead sure of, but if my calculator is correct 1200 cc/min equals .005 gallons/sec)

Under Injector Characteristics:
Injector Open time = 1

Hope that helps...........

Ken
1979 Corvette - 383 CID SBC w/ Holley Pro-Jection 900 CFM TBI, 4-85 lb lo-z injectors & Walbro 255 pump
MS2 v3 w/ms2extra 3.4.0 Release
36-1, Delphi LS2/7 coils in wasted spark, driven by v2.0 logic board from JBPerformance
Spartan Lambda Sensor from 14point7
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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kjones6039 wrote:Try the following basic settings.........

Under Injection Control:
Required Fuel = 2.7

Under General Settings:
Engine displacement = 115.9
Injector Flow Rate = .005 (This is the one item I am not dead sure of, but if my calculator is correct 1200 cc/min equals .005 gallons/sec)

Under Injector Characteristics:
Injector Open time = 1

Hope that helps...........

Ken
I will try it out and hope for the best thank you Ken
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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1200 cc/min equals .005 gallons/sec
Guys,

Injector flow rate is in grams per second. See: http://www.megamanual.com/mt29.htm#sg (or hit the F1 key while on that menu and you are connected to the internet)

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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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Lance wrote:
1200 cc/min equals .005 gallons/sec
Guys,

Injector flow rate is in grams per second. See: http://www.megamanual.com/mt29.htm#sg (or hit the F1 key while on that menu and you are connected to the internet)

Lance.
Sure enough! :oops:

I did try to qualify that in my post though....
(This is the one item I am not dead sure of, but if my calculator is correct 1200 cc/min equals .005 gallons/sec)
Apologies for the misinformation! I will recalculate............

Ken
1979 Corvette - 383 CID SBC w/ Holley Pro-Jection 900 CFM TBI, 4-85 lb lo-z injectors & Walbro 255 pump
MS2 v3 w/ms2extra 3.4.0 Release
36-1, Delphi LS2/7 coils in wasted spark, driven by v2.0 logic board from JBPerformance
Spartan Lambda Sensor from 14point7
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Re: to much fuel for turbo 3tc

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Ok so is it14.74 grams per second I did the equation :D
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