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TBI with progressive linkage - what is the issue with MSII?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:02 pm
by mutley_770
I have read a few posts that indicate there's problems with MSII and TBIs with a progressive linkage - but when I searched I couldn't find specifics.

I have a dual plenum 4bbl manifold on a Hemi 265 straight six and as they are cheap I am thinking of setting up two 2bbl TBIs for each side of the manifold as they flow 360cfm each. I just bought one for 99c, so you can see why I'm keen to try them out. The TBIs in question have progressive secondary butterflies and the TPS runs off the primary butterfly shaft.

So what problems will I run into? As far as I see it, all that matters is my v3 MSII will see a throttle position, and the MAP sensor takes car of the rest. Is the problem something to do with how you program accel enrichment with a non-linear throttle opening.. and can this be fudged? Or am I missing something, I know I can take a simplistic view on things... :)

cheers
Adrian

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:50 pm
by arlo#1
I am sure it will work fine as you are using map not tps for most of the tuning. I hope lol ! As I am build a 4 throtle body progresive set up for my car with a wild cam as well. I say go for it and keep me informed.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:39 pm
by arlo#1
wow I am dumb I never thought of that. Are the injectors upstreem of the throtle bodies?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:08 pm
by mutley_770
Excellent, just the info I was after Lance - cheers.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:28 pm
by mutley_770
Well I just received my 99c TPI (or CPI as Ford call it) in the mail and it's a great little unit. Even better, to my surprise it actually has 1:1 opening butterflies... sorry for wasting everyone's time.

It looks to be relatively easy to remove the linkage from one and join the throttle shafts across - to have them ganged together as a 4bbl. Will be fairly compact too, smaller than what a Holley Pro-Jection / GM TBI looks like.

Lance do you have pics of your dual corvette arrangement, sounds cool! Nothing better than sidedraughts :)

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:06 pm
by arlo#1
You didnt waste my time! I learnt something. I also would like to see your side draft set up lance!

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:20 pm
by arlo#1
Nanaimo saves me gas and time I would most definatly be there whether or not I have the roadrunner running at the time!

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:40 am
by Jack
Nanaimo. . . . . . Hmmm, that's only about 5 hours drive from here. I could have the TR8 tuned and ready within a few weeks.

Keep us informed.

Jack

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:33 am
by arlo#1
I am in with or with out a megasquirt car. Here is were the roadrunner sits http://www.supersoda.com/detail.php?id=00000000121 but I make progres on it every night and every weekend so the longer you guys tak to put it all together the closer I will be.

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:11 pm
by 355vette
I would be in for anywhere on the Island
Bob