Backward Timing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:22 pm
Hope someone out there can help me please.
I have a V3 ms2 with 2.890 firmware. EDIS ignition, peugeot coil pack, Ford VR sensor, NB lambda. Bought in kit form and built by myself. Got a rough base map and tried tuning from there. It is installed onto a peugeot 205gti 1.9, with no obvious timing marks to go by. I locked the engine at 90 degrees, and then attached a triggerwheel to the crank, which i did using the 18 tooth of the 36-1 instead of the 9th. It wll be rolling roaded soon, just ironing out any bugs first.
What i am finding, and its quite strange, is that the advance feels to be backwards, so when you advance (increase the size of the timing number) it seems, by feel, to retard and vice versa. I can't understand what would make this do this except for the software because you can't just cross over the PIP and SAW wires to make this happen.
I have already ruined one starter motor because of this and now i've advanced the timing (in my reality retarded) it starts easier. Before it was a right bugger to start and constantly back firing.
Ok i have not confirmed this with a timing light which i kinda guess i should. I think it is doing this as when i have the engine running and put my foot down it feels and sounds like it is retarding (I have used EDIS before and no what hitting the rev limiter/0 degrees sounds like). If i give it some retard it can pull straight through and sounds fine. I'm stumped and/or stupid.
Sorry for not posting msq file, its on my other laptop i use for tuning. I have it in my head this thing is all backwards at the moment and wonder if anyone else has had this problem.
Thanks in advance (get it, ha ha)
Ryan
I have a V3 ms2 with 2.890 firmware. EDIS ignition, peugeot coil pack, Ford VR sensor, NB lambda. Bought in kit form and built by myself. Got a rough base map and tried tuning from there. It is installed onto a peugeot 205gti 1.9, with no obvious timing marks to go by. I locked the engine at 90 degrees, and then attached a triggerwheel to the crank, which i did using the 18 tooth of the 36-1 instead of the 9th. It wll be rolling roaded soon, just ironing out any bugs first.
What i am finding, and its quite strange, is that the advance feels to be backwards, so when you advance (increase the size of the timing number) it seems, by feel, to retard and vice versa. I can't understand what would make this do this except for the software because you can't just cross over the PIP and SAW wires to make this happen.
I have already ruined one starter motor because of this and now i've advanced the timing (in my reality retarded) it starts easier. Before it was a right bugger to start and constantly back firing.
Ok i have not confirmed this with a timing light which i kinda guess i should. I think it is doing this as when i have the engine running and put my foot down it feels and sounds like it is retarding (I have used EDIS before and no what hitting the rev limiter/0 degrees sounds like). If i give it some retard it can pull straight through and sounds fine. I'm stumped and/or stupid.
Sorry for not posting msq file, its on my other laptop i use for tuning. I have it in my head this thing is all backwards at the moment and wonder if anyone else has had this problem.
Thanks in advance (get it, ha ha)
Ryan