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vortec distributor??

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:40 am
by jay_rich
Okay here is what I have going on.

I plan on running the newest version of MSII.

I have a 1995 LT1 that has been bore'd, stroked and is turboed. Now I want to change over the ignition setup. I am retrofitting on a SBC Single plane intake and plan on stuffing a 1996? MSD vortec distributor (off the pickup trucks) Now I dont know much about it other then it is a 3 wire distributor. Everywhere I look it seems that the ign module is seperate and the coil.

Now with this dizzy do I have to run a crank trigger? I am trying to stay away from this option as it gets pricey and I do drive the car on the street alot.

Currently the motor runs on obd1 pcm with the Opti and doesnt have a crank sensor at all (only 96-97 did)

My friend runs this distributor on his 8 second 6 speed camaro, but runs a FAST setup. Also runs a 7al2 box and a red HVC2 coil. He also has a crank sensor so I need to find out why.

Would I be better off going with a different dizzy? Anyone recommend one I can drop in that doesnt require a seperate crank trigger? Maybe even one that has a ing module and coil already in it?

This setup is in my 1987 Iroc with a T6 74mm Garrett, dyno'd 583RWHP on 8psi pump gas! on the stock pcm setup.

Thanks for any help.

Re: vortec distributor??

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:23 am
by jay_rich
Should i run a 7 wire 1992 camaro 5.7 distributor? seems like an easy solution.

Im thinking this one..MSD-8366

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-8366/

Jay

Re: vortec distributor??

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:05 pm
by trakkies
jay_rich wrote:Okay here is what I have going on.

I plan on running the newest version of MSII.

I have a 1995 LT1 that has been bore'd, stroked and is turboed. Now I want to change over the ignition setup. I am retrofitting on a SBC Single plane intake and plan on stuffing a 1996? MSD vortec distributor (off the pickup trucks) Now I dont know much about it other then it is a 3 wire distributor. Everywhere I look it seems that the ign module is seperate and the coil.

Now with this dizzy do I have to run a crank trigger? I am trying to stay away from this option as it gets pricey and I do drive the car on the street alot.

Currently the motor runs on obd1 pcm with the Opti and doesnt have a crank sensor at all (only 96-97 did)

My friend runs this distributor on his 8 second 6 speed camaro, but runs a FAST setup. Also runs a 7al2 box and a red HVC2 coil. He also has a crank sensor so I need to find out why.

Would I be better off going with a different dizzy? Anyone recommend one I can drop in that doesnt require a seperate crank trigger? Maybe even one that has a ing module and coil already in it?

This setup is in my 1987 Iroc with a T6 74mm Garrett, dyno'd 583RWHP on 8psi pump gas! on the stock pcm setup.

Thanks for any help.
Is it is a conventional distributor driving a conventional ignition setup? Ie self contained?
I has this on my Rover V-8 and this is what I did.
Lock up the centrifugal advance mechanism.. Tips on how to do this in the MegaManual. The MegaSquirt can map the ignition far more accurately. And it already has a MAP sensor.
As regards the trigger it really depends on your distributor. Mine had a VR sensor with the electronics for that bolted to the outside of the distributor. So I first removed those electronics and fed the VR sensor direct to the MS. That worked quite well - bit I've now changed to a hall effect one which I glued to the VR sensor baseplate. This gives a more reliable trigger than the VR one. A suitable sensor is the Allegro ATS682 which only cost a few dollars from Digi-Key.
It's probably not quite so good as going to an EDIS setup or whatever - but a damn sight cheaper and much better than the old mechanical system.

Re: vortec distributor??

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:44 pm
by Joe
The vortec dist only has a 1x signal. You could not run with only that and no crank trigger.

Run the 92 5.7. It's been done plenty of times and will be an easy solution

Joe

Re: vortec distributor??

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:23 am
by jay_rich
So will the 1992 dizzy be fine to run with boost etc? My Timing will be normal driving around (40* timing etc) then in boost it will slowly ramp down to around 17-20* timing depending on boost.

This is a 383 lt1 that will be running 15-20psi. I just don’t wanna toss away 300 bucks on the msd-8366 and it not control it right or something.

Jay