In a future build, I would like to take full advantage of this system, but I have a concern. I plan on using MSII and GM's TPI (Tuned Port Injection) system, which is a batch fire MPI system. I also need a cam with some overlap to take advantage of the scavenging. I am not sure exactly which cam, as I still need to determine a few things (deck height, valve relief, etc.), but let's say about four degrees of overlap for the sake of argument. I hope that the "push" of the tuned intake runner combined with the "pull" of the exhaust will be sufficient to fill the the 64cc chamber completely with fresh charge. My concern is that it will work "too" well, and end up sucking the bulk of the injected fuel charge out the exhaust valve. This wouldn't be an issue in some sort of "wet manifold" setup, as the charge lost would be replaced by more air/fuel emulsion, and it wouldn't matter in a sequential setup, as the injection events could be timed to occur after the scavenge events. But for a batch MPI system, all of the injectors are fired at once, and only once per cycle (right?), so there is only a finite charge, and it is waiting right behind the intake valve, so it would probably be first to be sucked out of the runner during scavenge. Is this a valid concern?At this time a few numbers will put the value of exhaust pressure wave tuning into perspective. Air flows from point A to point B by virtue of the pressure difference between those two points. The piston traveling down the bore on the intake stroke causes the pressure difference we normally associate with induction. The better the head flows the less suction it takes to fill (or nearly fill) the cylinder. For a highly developed two-valve race engine the pressure difference between the intake port and the cylinder caused by the piston motion down the bore, should not exceed about 10-12 inches of water (about 0.5 psi). Anything much higher than this indicates inadequate flowing heads. For more cost-conscious motors, such as most of us would be building, about 20-25 inches of water (about 1 psi) is about the limit if decent power (relative to the budget available) is to be achieved. From this we can say that, at most, the piston traveling down the bore exerts a suction of 1 psi on the intake port Fig. 3.
The exhaust system on a well-tuned race engine can exert a partial vacuum as high as 6-7 psi at the exhaust valve at and around TDC. Because this occurs during the overlap period, as much as 4-5 psi of this partial vacuum is communicated via the open intake valve to the intake port. Given these numbers you can see the exhaust system draws on the intake port as much as 500 percent harder than the piston going down the bore. The only conclusion we can draw from this is that the exhaust is the principal means of induction, not the piston moving down the bore. The result of these exhaust-induced pressure differences are that the intake port velocity can be as much as 100 ft./sec. (almost 70 mph) even though the piston is parked at TDC! In practice then, you can see the exhaust phenomena makes a race engine a five-cycle unit with two consecutive induction events.
Tuned Port Injection Exhaust Scavenging Question
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