Interesting application,,,
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Interesting application,,,
So a fella drives up with a very nice yet totally stock 66 Chevelle, at least body wise.
Except for the fiberglass hood with the old school snorkel and a 427 big block under the hood with a tunnel ram.
Figuring that I was in for setting up a pair of carbs I get my jacket on (as its cold here)and he pops the hood and removes the bug catcher and low and behold he has 3, 2 bbl throttle bodies on a custom plate.
The MS2 he has and a very custom relay setup as it has an RPM switch and relay to feed power to the 2 outside throttle bodies.
They used an aftermarket Holley 454 replacement TBI in middle to feed it normally and 2 of the same brand, sized for 305/350s outboard. I think it has some type of controll from the MS and the RPM switch to getit to come in at higher RPM and partial throttle opening then made the linkage progressive.
They had the ignition setup seperate from the MS2. The big problem I found was dead O2 sensor(s) and a wacked out fuel pump.
But honestly I am thinking of looking for a 3 duece intake for my 283.
He swapped out the O2(s) and got it running better and has ordered new pump and filter setups.
This was a unique setup and it really impressed me on the way the previous owner had it set up but had used old parts from what I deduced.
Just thought you guys might like to hear about some different uses for MS
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some more on this one,,,
The big thing I see is that with simply pulling a relay or fuse the outboards can be dropped, say for the fact if you broke something and need to drive home without maybe activating the extra fuel, like if you have to keep working the throttle.
Will I try to get it running even better, yes will I change things ,maybe. What isnt broke I wont fix till I see I can do better.
The engine got on a chassis dyno and made over 548 hp at the rear wheels!
Blow me away. This idea i really like so I am really looking at a tripower intake now to be different.
More on this car later.
The 5.9 throttle body (I think the 5.2 uses the same one during some of the years) does NOT fit the pattern on this intake. The bolt pattern matches side-side but is about 3/8" off front-rear, which means old and new holes are about 1/2 diameter off. It might be possible to re-drill the manifold and wallow the TB holes a little, but this doesn't look like a 'professional' solution and good clamp force is needed to prevent vacuum leaks. And there is problem #2...
The TB has 2" dia throats and this manifold has 1 5/8" openings, which means throttle blade interference. Enlarging one manifold hole would be relatively simple (it feeds the upper plane of a dual-plane manifold) but the 2nd hole would require about 2" of depth enlargement to gain the full 2" bore benefit. Possible with the right tools and a few hours, I guess, but daunting to the average home fabricator.
The 1 5/8" bores, according to the MS calculator, are good for 196hp. The 2" bores of the TB are good for 297hp. Being that this manifold originally fed 270-290 hp 383s (with carb venturis that restrict airflow) I think the manifold would work as-is (with a suitable adapter) on a mild 383, and hogging it out a little would help.
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It's a castiron manifold, so welding isn't an option for me, I'll be going the adapter plate route. The TB is much shorter than a carb so I know it will fit. I already overlayed teh 2 patterns in CAD and have all the holes centerpunched onto an aluminum adapter plate. Need to get the right size holesaw to match the manifold and then do some blending with a burr to meet the TB bore size.