Low RPM at cranking on 2 different MS

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MickV8
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Low RPM at cranking on 2 different MS

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Guys, this is interesting...

This is on a chevy V8 350 with HEI distributor, MS controlling fuel only.

I was setting a MS-I v2.2 on this engine and I got it idling a couple times. Cranking RPM was something above 300 RPM (but I'm not 100% confident on my memory). Then suddenly it started showing something around 130 RPMs and won't start. I thought it could be MS, then got a MS-II V3 and the same thing happens. It shows ~130 RPMs, it seems that all spark plugs are firing as long as it's cranking, but won't start...

Then I thought it could be the ignition module (4 pin HEI) that went crazy, so I got a 7-pin but nothing changed.

So, here are my 2 questions:
1) As I'm not pretty sure about the cranking RPM when I got it idling, can I be making some confusion? Is ~300 RPM the normal cranking RPM for this engine? Is ~130 too low?
2) Could it be VR sensor misreading?
Matt Cramer
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Re: Low RPM at cranking on 2 different MS

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The Cranking RPM setting simply means "Use the cranking pulse width if RPM is less than this." 130 RPM isn't all that odd a real cranking RPM. Check if the plugs are wet with fuel or dry.
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Re: Low RPM at cranking on 2 different MS

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Matt Cramer wrote:The Cranking RPM setting simply means "Use the cranking pulse width if RPM is less than this." 130 RPM isn't all that odd a real cranking RPM. Check if the plugs are wet with fuel or dry.
Hi Matt, thanks for replying!Sorry, I may have confused you, When I say "cranking RPM" I actually mean the RPM that is being read from tach input. In the "Realtime Display" it is showing ~ 130 RPM...and I recall seeing more than this on the first couple times I started the engine... but maybe I'm wrong...

After some time the spark plugs get wet and then I just got some random sparks...

So, as you are saying, around 130 RPM is OK when cranking? What RPM you usually see in a SBC 350?
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Re: Low RPM at cranking on 2 different MS

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That's a normal RPM to see if it's not lighting off the fuel. It sounds like you're using too much cranking pulse width and flooding the engine.
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